Gërmime në Bosnjë

mesdimr · 12.4.2002, 21:13

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Scientist: Bosnian hill may have pyramid
By Aida Cerkez-Robinson, Associated Press

VISOKO, Bosnia-Herzegovina — With eyes trained to recognize pyramids hidden in the hills of El Salvador, Mexico and Peru, Semir Osmanagic has been drawn to the mound overlooking this central Bosnian town.

"It has all the elements: four perfectly shaped slopes pointing toward the cardinal points, a flat top and an entrance complex," he said, gazing at the hill and wondering what lies beneath.

No pyramids are known in Europe, and there is no evidence any ancient civilization there ever attempted to build one.

But Osmanagic, a Bosnian archaeologist who has spent the last 15 years studying the pyramids of Latin America, suspects there is one here in his Balkan homeland.

"We have already dug out stone blocks which I believe are covering the pyramid," he said. "We found a paved entrance plateau and discovered underground tunnels. You don't have to be an expert to realize what this is."

Osmanagic, 45, who now lives in Houston, is personally financing excavations at the Visocica hill, a 2,120-foot hump outside Visoko, a town about 20 miles northwest of the capital, Sarajevo.

He learned about the hill in April from Senad Hodovic, director of a museum devoted to the history of Visoko, which is rich in Bronze Age and medieval artifacts. Hodovic had attended a promotion of an Osmanagic book about ancient civilizations and thought he would like to see Visoko's pyramid-shaped hill.

When the pair climbed the hill, the sweeping view revealed a second, smaller pyramid-shaped hill. It reminded Osmanagic of pairs of pyramids he has seen in Latin America that together create a gateway into a valley.

After obtaining a permit to research the site, which is protected by the state as a national monument, the first probes of the main hill were carried out this summer at six points. Nadja Nukic, a geologist involved in the research, said she found 15 anomalies suggesting that some layers of the hill were manmade.

"We found layers of what we call 'bad concrete,' a definitely unnatural mixture of gravel once used to form blocks with which this hill was covered," Osmanagic said.

"The hill was already there," he added. "Some ancient civilization just shaped it and then coated it with this primitive concrete — and there you have a pyramid."

Small-scale excavations continued until early November, when winter set in, with the work focusing on what Osmanagic theorizes may have been the entrance to a pyramid-shaped temple.

Osmanagic believes the hill was shaped by the Illyrian people, who inhabited the Balkan peninsula long before Slavic tribes conquered it around A.D. 600. Little is known about the Illyrians, but Osmanagic thinks they were more sophisticated than many experts have suggested.

Nukic, who has walked up and down the hill several times, said she noticed symmetrical platforms in the slopes — indentations that Osmanagic believes are steps built into the pyramid.

A local businessman who bought a lot at the foot of the hill and brought in a bulldozer to dig the foundation for a house, meanwhile, unearthed manmade sandstone plates that the archeologists think may have been paving stones.

Anthropologists say the Visoko valley already offers ample evidence of organized human settlements dating back 7,000 years. The town was Bosnia's capital during the Middle Ages, and German archaeologists working the valley recently found 24,000 Neolithic artifacts just three feet below the surface.

Osmanagic is taking a cautious approach about the hill.

"No fast conclusions, please. The evidence has to be firm, at least beyond a reasonable doubt," he said.

"Not that I don't believe in a pyramid here," he added. "This place was always called 'Pyramid' by the local population. But we have to prove that this is not a natural shape."

He thinks, however, that the shape of the hill speaks for itself.

"God can make many things, but such perfectly geometrically formed slopes, pointing exactly toward the north, south, east and west — if he did that, well, that's phenomenal itself."

http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/tech/...-pyramid_x.htm

mesdimr · 27.10.2005, 22:21

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Europe's first pyramid?

Bosnia's leading Muslim daily Dnevni Avaz writes excitedly about "a sensational discovery" of "the first European pyramid" in the central town of Visoko, just north of Sarajevo.

Excavations at a hill site above the town have been going on for several months and initial analyses "have confirmed the original claim that this is Europe's first pyramid and a monumental building, similar in dimensions to the Egyptian pyramids."

"The pyramid is 100 metres high and there is evidence that it contains rooms and a monumental causeway ... The plateau is built of stone blocks, which indicates the presence at the time of a highly developed civilisation," the daily explains.

"Archaeological excavations near the surface have uncovered a part of a wall and fragments of steps," it reveals.

"Visocica hill could not have been shaped like this by nature," geologist Nada Nukic tells the daily. "This is already far too more than we have anticipated, but we expect a lot more from further analysis," she concludes.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/4377290.stm

mesdimr · 17.5.2006, 00:31

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Some See a 'Pyramid' to Hone Bosnia's Image. Others See a Big Hill.

VISOKO, Bosnia and Herzegovina — Semir Osmanagic stopped to shake hands and have his photograph taken with a group of mud-flecked Bosnian villagers, pickaxes in hand, on a steep hillside above this small medieval trading town on a bend of the Bosna River. They have dug away four feet of roots and clay to expose slanted slabs of sedimentary stone.

"Look at that megalith, it's got to weigh 40 tons," Mr. Osmanagic said eagerly, pointing to one of the roughly rectangular-shaped stones. "After so many thousands of years, it is amazing that they are still here."

Mr. Osmanagic, an amateur archaeologist, is convinced that he has discovered a huge ancient pyramid that will rewrite the history of Europe — not to mention that of Bosnia, a country suffering from war recriminations, political divisions and sunken pride. Anthropological genetics, he said, has proved that Bosnia is "the second oldest oasis of life in Europe," and the pyramid proves Bosnia is a source of civilization on the Continent.

"It's not just any pyramid," he said from beneath his flat-crowned Navajo hat, which has led the local press to liken him to Indiana Jones. "It's the biggest pyramid in the world."

Archaeologists and historians inside and outside Bosnia are appalled, insisting it is simply a peculiarly symmetrical bit of geology. But pyramid fever is spreading through the country. Largely uncritical television and newspaper reports have made the photogenic Mr. Osmanagic a national celebrity, and volunteers are flocking to Visoko hoping to help uncover the Pyramid of the Sun, a prehistoric edifice that will redeem the country by giving it a glorious and important past. "After all the blood and mass graves, this gives people something positive to talk about," said Zlatko Bekbic, who came from the northeastern town of Tuzla to see the supposed pyramid.

Asim Islamovic, 67, climbs the steep and slippery hill daily to dig with his toothless wife and middle-aged daughter. He lost a leg during the war that began in 1992, after the province of Bosnia-Herzegovina broke away from Serbian-dominated Yugoslavia. The horrors that followed introduced the world to the term "ethnic cleansing."

"We are changing the image of the whole country," Mr. Islamovic said. "We're showing Bosnia in a good way."

But not everyone is elated. "This isn't a pyramid, it's a bad circus," said Zilka Kujundzic-Vejzagic, a specialist in prehistoric archaeology at the National Museum in Sarajevo. She is one of 21 experts who published an open letter in Bosnian newspapers in April denouncing Mr. Osmanagic's project as bad science and manipulative sociology.

She scoffs at his suggestion that the pyramid is "probably older than the last ice age," saying no humans were even building simple huts then. There is no evidence, she said, that there was ever a civilization in the region organized enough to build such a massive monument. "If there had been a people who could make something like that, we would have found artifacts around it," she said.

Archaeologists in Bosnia have found little more than flint tools from the end of the last ice age and only simple Neolithic settlements that appeared thousands of years after that. The country's most substantial ancient monument is a modest stone city in southern Bosnia built during the third century B.C. by the Illyrians. The Egyptians are believed to have built their pyramids around 3,000 B.C., but even the biggest of them is dwarfed by Mr. Osmanagic's hill, which is 700 feet high.

Ms. Kujundzic-Vejzagic and her peers say that the symmetrical hill that Mr. Osmanagic has seized on was formed when an ancient lake bed buckled from tectonic movement of the earth's crust millions of years ago. As Africa pushed into Europe, geologists say, the flat lake bed broke into shards that were lifted up like pieces of ice at the colliding edge of an ice floe, creating flat-sided hills.

But where archaeologists see geological principles, Mr. Osmanagic sees the grandeur of Bosnian prehistory in which his ancestors built not only the Pyramid of the Sun, but also at least two other giant monuments hidden under grass and trees, which he has named the Pyramids of the Moon and Dragon. These terrestrial lumps, he said, form a triangle.

"Nature could not have created three identical hills in this pattern," he said with matter-of-fact confidence. He tells the daily stream of visitors to his dig that at certain times of year, the shadow of the Pyramid of the Sun moves across the valley and covers the Pyramid of the Moon, "symbolizing that the reign of the sun is over and that of the moon is beginning."

His fans, mostly Bosnian Muslims like himself, include Sulejman Tihic, that group's representative in the country's dysfunctional three-party presidency that includes a Serb and a Croat. While Mr. Osmanagic insists he has broader support, he has little argument with the notion that nationalist pride plays a role in what is happening in Visoko.

"Once you show that you respect your past, people respect you more," he said in slightly accented English, as the pickaxes flew atop his pyramid. "The Bosnian brain is going to excavate this site and show results to the international community."

Visoko, a stronghold of the Bosnian nationalist party, was a major base of the Bosnian Army during the war. The bullet-riddled shell of a bombed-out Serbian house on the south flank of the pyramid-shaped hill attests to the religious tensions that still percolate here.

Nor is it just any hill that Mr. Osmanagic has identified as a prehistoric pyramid. The flat top is the site of a medieval castle that belonged to a 14th-century Christian king, Stefan Tvrtko I, who was buried in a church in the valley below.

Croats identify more with the king and his castle than do Bosnian Muslims, for whom the site is a subtle reminder of Serbian wartime propaganda that claimed there was no such thing as the Bosnian people, arguing that Bosnians were nothing more than Serbs and Croats who switched religions under Turkish occupation hundreds of years ago.

Mr. Osmanagic, 45, studied economics and politics in Sarajevo before moving to Croatia to work in the import and export trade. He left for the United States with his wife and son when the war broke out, and he now owns a metal shop in Houston that makes everything from stainless steel sinks to small copper pyramids that he sells as a novelty item for $40 each — a line that preceded his venture to the Visoko hill.

His true interest, he says, has long been in "the real history of civilization," and over the past 15 years, he repeatedly traveled to Central America to visit the pre-Columbian pyramids there. He wrote a dissertation on Mayan monuments for a doctorate degree at the University of Sarajevo that was published in English. It is full of new-age interpretations of what he saw in the Mayan pyramids. Several other books in his native language have also been published.

While promoting his books in Sarajevo last year, he answered an invitation from the director of the Visoko Historic Heritage Museum to visit the medieval ruins and, he said, quickly recognized the symmetrical hill they sat upon as a pyramid.

Every flat surface, every straight line only confirms his hypothesis. He sees four clearly delineated sides to the Visoko hill, corresponding to the cardinal points. "That was enough to convince me that we are talking about pyramids here," he said, standing on the gentler slope of the hill's west side, the "ceremonial causeway."

Radar analysis, he said, has found "straight hallways" inside the hill that intersect at 90-degree angles. Thermal analysis indicates that the hill dissipates heat more quickly than those around it, he said, as would a pyramid with tunnels inside.

In April, he instructed teams of volunteers to start digging on the slope above the town. They soon hit flat stones, and the mood grew feverish. "When they uncovered the first stone blocks, they were hopping like kids," Mr. Osmanagic said.

The authorities have granted him five years to excavate the site, and he has raised thousands of dollars from the local government and businesses to finance the work. He is trying to get the national government to put the project in its budget next year.

The genius of Mr. Osmanagic's discovery may turn out to be that it is difficult to disprove without a large and costly excavation, allowing an enduring and alluring mythology to grow up around the hill.

A hotel in Visoko has renamed itself the Pyramid Motel, and merchants are doing a brisk business selling miniature Mayan-style pyramids in the shape of the one that Mr. Osmanagic has convinced people lies beneath the wooded slopes.

"You're proof that something has started to move in a positive way," one shop owner, Senar Laletovic, told a visiting reporter. "That alone is interesting."

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/05/15/wo...ref=login&_r=0

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Amateur archeologist Semir Osmanagic claims he has found an ancient pyramid in Bosnia that dwarfs the largest of those built by the Egyptians and proves that Bosnia is a source of civilization on the Continent.

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Largely uncritical television and newspaper reports have made Mr. Osmanagic a national celebrity, and scores of volunteers have come to the hill to help excavate the pyramid.

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Archaeologists and historians insist the hill is simply a peculiarly symmetrical bit of geology, formed when an ancient lake bed buckled from tectonic movement of the earth’s crust millions of years ago.

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Pyramid fever is spreading through Bosnia, and even Mr. Osmanagic agrees that nationalist pride plays a role in what is happening in Visoko. After years of war and mass graves, Bosnians are eager to believe in the grandeur of Bosnian prehistory.

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Bosnian authorities have granted Mr. Osmanagic five years to excavate the site, and he has raised thousands of dollars from the local government and businesses to finance the work.

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The true genius of Mr. Osmanagic’s discovery may be the difficulty of disproving it without a costly excavation, allowing a mythology to grow up around the hill. A hotel in Visoko has already renamed itself the Pyramid Motel, and merchants are doing a brisk business selling miniature pyramids.

http://www.nytimes.com/slideshow/200...IDESHOW_1.html

mesdimr · 29.6.2006, 23:17

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Bosnians unite in pyramid selling that pays off for all
By Bojan Pancevski in Visoko
12:01AM BST 18 Jun 2006

It has spawned a T-shirt, souvenir and hotel industry, drawn thousands of visitors and volunteers every weekend, and become a rare symbol of national unity in a country riven by ruinous sectarian war.

Last week, it won the backing of Unesco, the world's foremost educational and cultural body.

There is just one thing missing from Bosnia's so-called Pyramid of the Sun, acclaimed by some as the most important archaeological discovery in Europe for more than a century - a pyramid.

Despite the fact that Semir Osmanagic, who claims to have discovered it, has no formal archaeological training and believes, among other things, that the South American Mayans descended from visitors from outer space, more people apparently want to believe his theory that Bosnia is home to giant pyramids than to debunk it.

Mr Osmanagic claims that a pyramid-shaped mountain outside the town of Visoko, near Sarajevo, conceals a 12,500-year-old structure that pre-dates the pyramids of ancient Egypt, making this corner of Europe the cradle of modern civilisation.

Despite ridicule of the notion by the world's archaeological authorities, scientists and historians, volunteers pour into Bosnia's "Valley of the Pyramids" to help to excavate the find of the millennium.

Bosnia's answer to Indiana Jones is welcomed by adoring embraces from locals whose economy has been rejuvenated by the excavations. His belief is so strong that he has persuaded local authorities and the Bosnian President, Sulejman Tihic, to back him.

Last week Mr Osmanagic - who has written books on subjects as diverse as out-of-body experiences and the Freemasons - pulled off another triumph as Unesco pledged to send a team of archaeologists to examine and help to excavate the site.

But the chief of Unesco's culture section, Marie-Paule Roudil, said there was more to Bosnia's pyramids than mere archaeology.

"Unesco has already demonstrated, during the implementation of its activities in Bosnia and Herzegovina, willingness to support all positive and reconciliation activities, aimed at increasing… mutual understanding and cultural co-operation."

On top of a 2,120ft hill that towers over Visoko, which has been renamed locally the Pyramid of the Sun, Mr Osmanagic was delighted that Unesco was coming. He suggests that at least five hills in the valley were built by a mysterious civilisation 12,500 years ago.

"People identify with what we are doing here because they know we are not elitist scientists. Everyone can join in," he said. "We employ about 50 people on the site but we get hundreds of volunteers coming in every week.

''We have brought the first good news here in a long time and only conservative and narrow-minded scientists are unable to recognise that. Local archaeologists are mostly driven by envy and the international ones don't want to accept the fact that civilisation spread from here to them and not the other way around."

Mr Osmanagic, who also runs a machine tools company in Houston, Texas, said: "This project means tourism will boom and Bosnia will open up to the world." There is no doubt the 46,000-strong community near the pyramids has profited from the influx of visitors, with shops offering an array of tacky pyramid souvenirs and T-shirts.

Critics, including the British expert Anthony Harding, the president of the European Association of Archaeologists, who visited recently, say the excavation is harming academic science. He said: "The whole thing is a total absurdity.

There is some genuine archaeology on the hill and I'm told it's medieval, possibly Bronze Age or Roman. But the speculation that there could be a 12,000-year-old structure beneath is a complete fantasy and anyone with basic knowledge of archaeology or history should recognise that."

The lack of evidence appears not to bother most Bosnians, who are more interested in the economic impact and the unifying appeal of the pyramid idea. Hamza Baksic, 62, said: "If Osmanagic can get money flowing in, why not let him dig?"

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...f-for-all.html

mesdimr · 24.3.2007, 12:20

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Anijet ilire, histori 2.200-vjeçare në Bosnjë

24/03/2007 - 09:48

Historia e tyre është e lashtë, plot 2200- vjeçare. Dhe mbart në vetvete një epokë të vjetër, atëherë kur mjetet e lundrimit ishin “armët” e vërteta të dominimit të një populli. Bëhet fjalë për dy anije ilire, reliket e të cilave janë zbuluar vetëm pak ditë më parë në Bosnjë-Hercegovinë. Mbetjet e këtyre anijeve janë zbuluar vetëm tetë metra nën sipërfaqen e detit, në gjirin e parkut natyror Hutovo Blato, në jug të Hercegovinës, në afërsi të grykëderdhjes së lumit Neretva. Ato kanë qëndruar për mijëra vjet të fshehur, si për ironi, në një thellësi jo shumë të madhe, dhe kanë arritur t’i mbijetojnë gërryerjes së ujit, baticave dhe zbaticave si dhe ndryshimit të kushteve atmosferike.

Zbulimi

Gjithçka ndodhi gjatë kërkimeve të një ekipi arkeologësh nga Bosnja, përgjatë grykëderdhjes së lumit si dhe zonën e bregut të parkut natyror. Snjezhana Vasilji, drejtuesja e ekipit të arkeologëve që punonte në këtë zonë tha se dy anijet që u gjetën në zonën e quajtur Desilo kanë gjatësi 14 metra dhe gjerësi katër metra. Mjetet e lundrimit të ilirëve që dominonin detet në Ballkan kishin gjetur vend mes të dhënave historike greke dhe romake, por reliket e tyre nuk ishin zbuluar asnjëherë. Dy anijet e zbuluara pak ditë më parë janë të parat anije ilire që hedhin dritë mbi historinë e vërtetë të një popullsie të lashtë. Pjesëza nga amfora të ndryshme janë zbuluar brenda anijeve, 30 prej të cilave mbajnë shenjat e artizanëve që i kanë punuar ato. Bashkë me to janë zbuluar edhe një varkë romake si dhe rrënojat e një vile të vjetër romake aty pranë. Arkeologët kanë zbuluar edhe disa varre ilire, 8 të tilla, që janë edhe më të vjetra se anijet. Deri tani ekspertët kanë ekzaminuar vetëm tetë metra katrorë përgjatë fundit të detit dhe verifikime e kërkime të tjera duhet të bëhen për të zbuluar se çfarë ka ndodhur vërtet dhe nëse kjo ishte një pikë strehimi për piratët ilirë.

Hipoteza

Anijet ilire, që besohet se janë më të vjetra se 2 mijëvjeçare, janë të njohura për historianët dhe arkeologët vetëm nëpërmjet përshkrimeve të ndryshme, miteve dhe legjendave greke dhe romake. Por, ekzistenca e tyre fizike nuk është provuar asnjëherë në ditët e sotme. Arkeologët tani besojnë se zona e Hutovos, në grykëderdhjen e lumit Neretva ka qenë një ndër destinacionet e këtyre anijeve që lundronin nëpër detin Adriatik që është i lidhur me lumin në fjalë. Duket se piratët ilirë, pasi kanë kapur një anije greke apo romake, kanë shkuar deri në grykëderdhjen e lumit Neretva për t’u strehuar në Hutovo Blato, ku anijet e ndjekura nga persekutorët e tyre, u mbytën.

Në zonën e Desilos ku u gjetën anijet janë zbuluar disa herë amfora të vjetra, që datojnë mijëra vjet më parë. Për sa i përket ndërtesës romake që gjetur në fund të këtij territori në deltën e lumit, besohet se ajo daton në epokën e Hekurit ose të Bronzit. Arkeologët thonë se vetëm kërkimet e reja si dhe shqyrtimi me shumë hollësi i relikeve që gjetura mund të hedhë dritë mbi fakte të rëndësishme historike të ndodhura 2.200 vjet më parë. Ilirët kanë qenë banorët më të hershëm të Ballkanit Perëndimor, përfshi këtu edhe zonën e Bosnjës, shumë kohë para së perandoria romake të pushtonte rajonin dhe të merrte kontrollin e tij.

Parku

Parku natyror ku u gjetën reliket e anijeve ilire është një pasuri e vërtetë arkeologjike për Bosnjën. Ai ka një sipërfaqe prej rreth 7 mijë hektarësh dhe ka edhe gjashtë liqene të vegjël. Parlu është shumë i famshëm për praninë e 200 specieve të zogjve. Arkeologët besojnë se ky vend mban fshehur shumë relike të rëndësishme historike dhe ruhet nga policë të posaçme për të mos u bërë pre e plaçkitësve. Sipas banorëve lokalë, verën e kaluar trupat e Bashkimit Europian në Bosnjë Hercegovina (EUFOR) zbuluan dhe morën rreth 50 amfora me shumë vlerë nga ky park natyror.

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20.03.2007 - Two Illyrian ships were found by archeological team in Hutovo blato, near Capljina*. Remains of ships were found eight meters below surface of water. Their age is estimated about 2200.About Illyrian ships it had has been known only from Greek and Roman sources.During researches, the first time from water was taken a Roman iron spear with kept wooden handle and it was found seven graves for which it is supposed that they are older than ships that is originating from Bronze Age or Iron Age. Graves are still not opened.

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Bosnian archeologists discover Illyrian ships

Mar 20, 2007, 13:00 GMT

Sarajevo/Mostar - A team of Bosnia-Herzegovina's archaeologists have discovered for the first time the remnants of fabled Illyrian ships in a marshland in southern Herzegovina, the team's head said Tuesday.

Snjezana Vasilj told local media in Mostar that the ships were discovered some eight metres under the water of Hutovo blato, a marshland near the southern town of Capljina.

The Illyrian ships, believed to be more than 2,200 years old, had been known to historians only through Greek and Roman myths and legends, but their existence had never been physically proven, said Vasilj.

The Hutovo blato marshland, she said, became their final destination after they sailed in from the Adriatic Sea which is connected with the marshland by the Neretva River.

The Desilo location where the ships were discovered, said Vasilj, would be searched further, since the experts there also discovered some 80 amphoras lids and more than 30 fragments of amphora, some even with the hallmark.

Remains of an ancient Roman villa and an entire Roman spear were found at the same location, as well as seven graves, believed to date from Bronze or Iron Age.

Illyrians were the earliest inhabitants of the Western Balkans, including Bosnia, long before the Roman Empire took control over the region.

© 2007 dpa - Deutsche Presse-Agentur
http://science.monstersandcritics.co...Illyrian_ships

mesdimr · 8.1.2009, 23:32

Shqipja e këtij artikulli është shqipja më bastarde që kam hasur ndonjëherë dhe e kisha me dy mendje a ta sillja a jo, por kjo faqe, megjithëse shtetërore amerikane, kështu shkruan rëndom dhe ndoshta të dhënat kanë vlerë për ndonjërin. Veç kësaj ndërtimi i lajmit është sikur po i flet marsianëve, po nejse.

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Zbulimi arkeologjik hap dritare tek ilirianët

Arkeologët gjetën shumë objekte, duke përfshirë më tepër se 30 anije iliriane mbushur plot me amfora romake. [Universiteti i Mostarit]

Pas disa javësh gërmimi intensiv një ekip arkeologjik nga Universiteti i Oslos raportoi një gjetje muajin e fundit që mund të ndryshojë historinë e shkruar të ilirianëve për një periudhë të ekzistencës së tyre.

Një post ilirian tregtie në zonën kufitare midis Kroacisë dhe Bosnjë dhe Herzegovinës (BiH) hedh dritë mbi një aspekt të panjohur të jetës së këtyre njerëzve të lashtë të gadishullit të Ballkanit.

Udhëheqësja e ekipit arkeologjik që zbuloi gjurmat e postit tregtar ishte profesoresha e asociuar Marina Prusak. "Zbulimi ynë është i rëndësishëm për kuptimin e identiteteve kulturore në Ballkan në kohrat e lashta," tha ajo.

Zbulimi, i pari i këtij lloji, përbëhet nga rrënojat e një vendi dhe mbetjet e një moli që mbase ka funksionuar si një post tregtar. Arkeologët gjetën shumë anije të mbytura të mbushura plot me enë mbajtëse apo amfora që datohen në shekullin e parë BC. Copët e shumta të poçerisë të gjetura tregojnë se ky ishte një post i madh tregtie.

Desilo, ku ekipi bëri gërmimet e tij, është 20 km nga bregu në një fushë aluvionale ndanë lumit Neretva. "Desilo është vendosur në pjesën më të brendëshme të një gjiri të qetë ku ishte natyrale të transferoheshin mallrat në anije më të vogla, kështu që vendi është perfekt për një port të brendshëm tregtar. Ne e dinim që po të gjejmë një port kjo do të përbënte një shembull të rralllë të një pike takuese në këtë peisazh të padepërtueshëm," i tha Prusak ScienceDaily.

Ilirianët qenë fise indo-evropiane që u dukën në pjesën perëndimore të gadishullit të Ballkanit rreth 1,000 BC, një periudhë që përputhet me fundin e epokës së bronxit dhe fillimin e asj të hekurit. Ata banuan shumicën e zonës deri në mijvjeçarin tjetër.

Në kulmin e saj, Iliria e lashtë përfshinte bregdetin adriatik dhe brendësinë malore të Ballkanit Perëndimor: Shqipërinë e tanishme, Slloveninë, Dalmacinë, Kroacinë, BiH, Kosovën, Malin e Zi dhe Serbinë, duke përfshirë në një pikë, rajonin e Mollosisë (Epirit) në Greqinë veriperëndimore.

Ilirianët ranë nën pushtimin romak gjatë shekullit të parë BC. Territoret ilire u bënë më pas krahina të Perandorisë Romake dhe të Perandorisë Bizantine.

Zbulimi i ekipit norvegjez dhe interpretimi i tij vë në pah lidhjet e vjetra tregtare midis romakëve dhe ilirëve dhe tregon se ilirët nuk qenë vetëm luftëtarë e piratë siç i përshkruajnë disa historianë, por gjithashtu një popull që zhvillonte ekonominë e tregtinë e tij.

Me datimin e amforave, shkencëtarët gjetën prova se anijet qenë mbytur gjatë një periudhe kohore gati gjysmë-shekulli, duke vërtetuar se nuk qenë anije pirate të sulmuara nga romakët.

Arkeologu Adam Lindhagen, i specializuar në amforat romake dhe që mori pjesë në ekspeditë, thotë se kjo është gjetja më e rëndësishme deri tani nga epoka iliriane.

http://www.setimes.com/cocoon/setime.../08/feature-03

mesdimr · 11.4.2016, 23:48

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Mysterious giant sphere unearthed in forest divides opinion

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This round rock could be the oldest stone sphere made by human hands, says Bosnian archaeologist Semir Osmanagic.

Discovered in a forest near the Bosnian town Zavidovici, the ball has a radius of between four and five feet, and an "extremely high" iron content.

Dr Osmanagic believes the sphere proves the existence of an advanced lost civilisation dating back more than 1,500 years ago.

According to his fellow researcher Dr. Sam Osmanagich, the region used to have many more of the spheres well into the 20th century. Many were apparently destroyed in the 1970s due to rumours there was gold hidden in the middle of them.

Dr Osmanagic, known as "the Bosnian Indiana Jones," hit headlines in 2005 when he claimed that a cluster of hills in Bosnia's Visoko Valley was in fact the site of ancient pyramids linked by a network of underground tunnels.

While his claims were mocked by some, the Bosnian government gave financial backing enabling excavations to be carried out in the region. Nedzad Brankovic, Bosnian Prime Minister at the time: "We were told the world was laughing at us ... but there is no government in the world that should stay quiet on things which are positive."

Anthony Harding, the president of the European Association of Archaeologists, described the Visoko excavation as "a total absurdity", saying: "There is some genuine archaeology on the hill and I'm told it's medieval, possibly Bronze Age or Roman. But the speculation that there could be a 12,000-year-old structure beneath is a complete fantasy and anyone with basic knowledge of archaeology or history should recognise that."

In 2016, critics are once again lining up to poke holes in Dr Osmanagic's rather grand claims. Discussing the Zavidovici spehere, Mandy Edwards of the University of Manchester's School of Earth, Atmospheric and Environmental Sciences told MailOnline the rock may not be man-made at all, and have been formed by the "precipitation of natural mineral cement within the spaces between sediment grains" - a process known as concretion.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016...vides-opinion/

mesdimr · 13.4.2016, 00:51

Shumë të indinjuar sërish kundër Osmanagiçit, me tezën se sferat janë pasojë konkrecioni:

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Spherical Rock in Bosnia Stirs Controversy

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An infamous would-be archaeologist is at it again, suggesting that some unique rock formations he has discovered in present day Bosnia, are proof of an ancient civilization that thrived there 1,500 years ago.

Semir Osmanagic has been combing the hills around Visocica since 2005 claiming the surrounding mountains were part of a giant collection of pyramids that he says could be 15,000 years old.

Since then he has been digging around the mountains but not turning up any archaeologically accepted proof of his claims.

His latest "find" is a large, spherical rock found in a Bosnian forest that he says could be the oldest such rock ever made by humans.

The rock is about 1.4 meters across and he says it has a very high amount of iron content.

Natural formation?

Scientists who have seen the rock say it is likely a natural formation and not a human construct.

But Osmanagic has received plenty of support and funding from the Bosnian government, and he is something of a celebrity in the area.

But to the archaeological world he is a dangerous charlatan.

Anthony Harding, the president of the European Association of Archaeologists called his claims “a total absurdity,” according to The Telegraph.

"There is some genuine archaeology on the hill and I'm told it's medieval, possibly Bronze Age or Roman,” he said. “But the speculation that there could be a 12,000-year-old structure beneath is a complete fantasy and anyone with basic knowledge of archaeology or history should recognize that."

In an open letter written ten years ago, a group of scholars denounced Osmanagic that "... disgracefully, threatens to destroy parts of Bosnia's real heritage."

Still, its unlikely Osmanagic will stop pushing his theories or digging in the region.

The sphere is receiving similar scrutiny.

Mandy Edwards of the University of Manchester's School of Earth, Atmospheric and Environmental Sciences told The Daily Mail that the rock might not even be man-made but could have been formed by"precipitation of natural mineral cement within the spaces between sediment grains,” called concretion.

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Po me gjasë është pasojë dukurie EM shkalle makro, që mbetet të verifikohet. Robi gjithsesi di më shumë se ç'thotë publikisht, se ka qenë i pranishëm dhe në pika të tjera në botë me hekur dhe kuarc në gjendje të lirë ose si elemente strukturash artificiale parahistorike.

Gërmime në Bosnjë

Gërmime në Bosnjë

Anijet ilire, histori 2200-vjeçare në Bosnje

Gjetje të shumta në anijet e mbytura ilire